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Condit Teaches Ph.D. How To Think (Subject: Holocaust)
October 17, 2006 NA (Network America) e-wire
Condit Teaches Ph.D. How to Think (subject: Holocaust)
This is the follow up Network America ewire on the challenge to debate the
Holocaust issued to me by Dr. Andrew Mathis Ph.D. of Villanova University. More
to come.
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As you see below, Dr. Mathis’s original email to me was a reaction to our short video of the 2006 Radio ads playing on www.TheTruth247.com – and he entitled his email: “Let me straighten you out on a few points.” My response email is entitled: “Condit Teaches Ph.D. How to Think.”
I answered in the midst of his email behind five stars (*****) for easy reference – but just to be perfectly clear and so readers don’t get lost, I’m putting our respective names before each of our respective words in the back and forth. I also corrected a about two insignificant typos in Dr. Mathis’s email, and about six insignificant types in mine; both Dr. Mathis and I have the original emails. Here we go:
----Original Message-----
From: andrew@mathis.net [mailto:andrew@mathis.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:32 AM
To:
yourcomments@jimconditjrforcongress2006.com
Cc: editor@enquirer.com
Subject: Let me straighten you out on a few points
MATHIS: Mr. Condit,
I don't really care about your
inane conspiracy theories regarding 9/11
***** CONDIT: Why don't you straighten me out on camera before an audience -- I'll get someone at XU or UC to host the debate -- and we'll debate for two hours before an audience on these matters, film it -- and it will go up immediately on YouTube, the internet, and GoogleVideo. --- fifteen minutes for you, fifteen minutes for me -- for the first hour or so -- and then questions from the audience for the last hour - - with both of us getting 2 minutes each to respond to each questioner. More fair rules at bottom of page. ******
***** CONDIT: The "Frothing at the mouth" Rabbi Joseph Barr of Cincinnati, Ohio
(I still have the Channel 5 clip on videotape from 1986) called me out in 1986
and said I "should answer to someone" for fingering Reformed Jews and Freemasons
as being behind the jailing of those peacefully picketing and protesting outside
of abortion chambers in Cincinnati in 1986. I said, "OK -- I'll answer to you on
camera in a debate." Clyde Gray reported this on Channel 5 News (which I also
have on tape) -- and "Teacher" Barr -- chickened out of the debate. WHY am I
fearing you may do the same, even though you yourself suggest such a debate at
the end of this letter??????? ******
MATHIS: and your association with the lunatic
Daryl Bradford Smith and his puppetmaster Eric Hufschmid.
***** CONDIT: Just for the record, half of the folks telling me not to associate
with these two guys think Daryl Bradford Smith is the puppetmaster, not Eric.
:-) --- people can go to
www.IamTheWitness.com and
www.HugeQuestions.com and decide for themselves who are the truth-tellers
and who are the liars and lunatics. *****
MATHIS: Rather, I take issue
with your characterization of three men: Ernst Zundel, David Irving, and Germar
Rudolf.
First and foremost, you are either incorrect, lying, or both when you state that
Ernst Zundel proved anything in a court of law in Canada.
In fact, he was *twice* convicted of "spreading false news." This means that the prosecution had to successfully prove -- twice, I remind you -- that Zundel not only was lying but that he *knew* he was lying.
***** CONDIT: If we had a false news law in this country, The Cincinnati
Enquirer, which you copied in on this disgraceful letter, would find most of its
officers, department heads, and reporters in jail (and, unlike Zundel, they
would deserve it!). Same goes for the rest of the "mainstream media' in the USA.
*****
***** CONDIT: Now listen up! Zundel proved through an actual gas chamber operator for the state of Missouri, Mr. Fred Leuchter (who operated this gas chamber on one person at a time, in the case of convicted felons who had received a sentence of the death penalty in Missouri), that the walls at Auschwitz (the buildings they were showing as homicidal gas chambers, ya know, the one's they built after 1945?) had no gas residue of any kind; on the other hand, the place where they deloused the clothes of concentration camp inmates with Zyklon B had BLUE WALLS, which blue residue lasts for at least dozens of years, if not hundreds. That's what was proven at that trial. *****
***** CONDIT: In fact, it was a report on that trial regarding the testimony of one Mr. Raoul Hilberg, so-called foremost Holocaust expert in the Jewish community at that time, that got me looking into this issue in the 80s. Hilberg said to my SHOCK, under oath, that there were no gas chambers in Germany during World War II !!!!! Why, in school in the sixties and early seventies, I had literally gotten the impression that gas chambers killing Jews were about as common as 7/11 convenience stores in the USA. No gas chambers in Germany? Six million killed in foreign countries? While prosecuting a three front war? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. *****
***** CONDIT: Also, under oath
and under expert questioning from attorney Doug Christie, Hilberg admitted he
had no evidence that the gas chambers existed outside of "testimonies."
Testimonies of "Holocaust Survivors" at the John Demjanjuk trial in Israel were
so full of OUTRAGEOUS absurdities and lies, that Pat Buchanan called the whole
show something like "Holocaust Survivor Syndrome" -- although I can't remember
for sure his exact phrase. Incidentally, you might want to bone up on this
subject (what actually happened) by reading the book of the former reporter for
the New York Bureau of the Associated Press, Michael A. Hoffman II, entitled,
"The Great Holocaust Trial." Hoffman was there. *****
***** CONDIT: Anyway, there are two things that were proved at the Zundel trial as far as any HONEST court would be concerned: 1) the walls at the buildings being presented as homicidal gas chambers in the 1980s at Auschwitz had zero residue of Zyklon B gas; and 2) the foremost Jewish expert on the Holocaust in the 1980s could not present any VERIFIABLE evidence that homicidal gas chambers existed during WW II to kill Jews or anybody else. *****
***** CONDIT: Don't jump to
conclusions that I'm pro-Hitler -- in fact, I'm anti-Hitler. Hitler was raised
to power by the Warburgs and Rothschilds and Schiffs (Jewish international
bankers) who funded him, especially in 1929. He was paid to scream anti-Semitism
and to round up as many of the everyday Jews in Germany and beyond as he could,
so that the top Zionists could send the ones they wanted down to Palestine, in
anticipation of the takeover of Palestine in 1948, only three years after WW II.
Many everyday Jews in Europe were abused, killed by being worked to death,
killed by disease, and killed by cruel means at the hand of the Zionists' first
cousins, or better said, stepchildren, the Nazis. Some in-fighting broke out,
but that's essentially the story. You can find out more at my very anti-Hitler
site,
www.hitlerdvd.com *****
MATHIS: The Crown did prove
this.
***** CONDIT: We need a sound effect here of a large crowd of informed people laughing hysterically. *****
***** CONDIT: The "Crown" -- is that what they're calling the international
Zionist lobby these days? -- proved nothing. Zundel came to America when some
Communist style board up there, totally run by Zionist Jews, said in a more
recent court proceeding that "Truth is no defense before this tribunal." That's
Jewish Communism. That's Jewish Zionism. THAT, my Ph.D. correspondent, proves
how correct Zundel was, not how correct his Zionist persecutors were. *****
MATHIS: I suggest that you correct this in your next television ad or sooner.
***** CONDIT: No thanks. Why don't you learn about a subject before you write about it, Mr. Ph.D.? ******
MATHIS: By the way, Zundel is not a pacifist; he is a committed National Socialist and I can prove this to you if you are interested in knowing more.
***** CONDIT: Zundel is quoting Thomas Jefferson these days. But I know in the past he has stated at times that he is in great sympathy with National Socialism. On this, I completely disagree with him, as is proven on my site, www.hitlerdvd.com Let me be more blunt about this subject: Nazism was a Zionist operation, and it served Zionism very, very, very well. The top Jewish bankers cared nothing for how much suffering they caused the everyday Jewish people -- or how many of them died during World War II. And I would hope the everyday Jewish people of today would wake up to that fact -- because many of them are going to be sacrificed in Israel for the Zionists to try to get closer to their goals. *****
***** CONDIT: Zundel, however, is prince of a guy, and I would say that anywhere. He is in jail for his virtues, not his mistaken opinions. I got the impression that he was still going on the feelings he had acquired as a very young German in WW II. He was undoubtedly told by those around him in Germany that Hitler had brought the nation back from the humiliation of the deliberately rigged and crooked scheme that was the Versailles Treaty. I say this was part of the method used to get the Germans to trust Hitler, -- himself, as the evidence indicates, probably part Jewish, and maybe a Rothschild. The result of "Hitler" is that Germany has been a slave to Zionism for 60 years courtesy of the government of the USA, --- paying tribute, and giving free military weapons to Israel all that time. The everyday Germans were framed during World War II, and Hitler was a key component of that framing, whatever his intentions or shifting attitudes may or may not have been. *****
***** CONDIT: I talked to Zundel once for six hours, and he is man of great chivalry, courage and character. He is a pacifist, and has remained true to that his entire adult life as far as I know. The same cannot be said for his cut-throat enemies, who blew up his house and his voluminous library in Canada after he whooped them silly in the court trials (by the evidence, not by the CROOKED, Zionist bought Judges; sorry to repeat myself, i.e., "Crooked" and "Zionist bought.") Blowing up his house and library with the intention of killing him -- I call this "Zionist debating tactics." *****
***** CONDIT: By the way, prominent Jews have been allowed to associate with, praise, invoke and treat-with-respect Communists for all of my life. I remember hearing that CIA agent-of-influence and huckster, Watergate "reporter" Carl Bernstein, sit on Larry King Live (CNN) and tell the nation that his dad, who he PROUDLY informed the TV audience was a Communist, was one of the REAL American heroes during the McCarthy era. And let's not forget President Franklin Roosevelt proudly proclaiming at one point that most of his best friends were Communists. So, nobody is going to intimidate me from standing by a good man who is mistaken on the subject of Hitler and National Socialism, and that especially includes you at -- what you say -- will be our upcoming debate, - but I encourage you to bring the subject up on that occasion. *****
MATHIS: And why is Mr. Zundel
currently in jail? While I believe that the charges against him in Germany are
unjust, he wouldn't be in Germany today if he had abided by U.S. immigration
law.
***** CONDIT: That is totally, completely, and absurdly FALSE. While MILLIONS and MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross the border from Mexico while Chertoff and other sundry Zionist/Communist Jews controlling much of "our" government do NOTHING, Zundel is ambushed and arrested rudely at his home by their lackeys allegedly because he missed one meeting with his immigration board -- a meeting he was never informed of! WHAT A BUNCH OF CRIMINAL, LYING HYPOCRITES. Just like the good old Soviet Union in 1918 -- where the new Communist government declared it a capital crime to criticize a Jew or anything Jewish. (Let's all put our thinking caps on and see if we can figure out why that might have been done . . .) The time has come to start rounding up Chertoff and all the rest of the top criminal, Zionist Jews afflicting our country and the world. Americans need not take this anymore. *****
MATHIS: As to the "World War II gas chamber story" being false, I challenge you today to debate this issue with me, or at the very least convince your cowardly accomplice Mr. Hufschmid to debate me.
***** CONDIT: Man, oh man -- I
hope you mean debate you in person before an audience. As long as you agree to
have it at a college or place conducive to such a debate, with an auditorium
that holds at least a few hundred people, and filmed so that it can be put
straight up on the internet, I will agree to it. However, the debate will be on
any subject related to WW II, Zionism, Nazism, or 20th century history relating
to these things - - with the format I stated above. That way -- it will be
obvious after two hours who addressed the issues and who didn't. And the
audience and viewer can judge for themselves. See more rules below. ******
MATHIS: As for David Irving, while I agree that he is being unjustly jailed (I do not believe in punishing people for the stupid things they say, unless it's "Fire!" in a crowded theater), he is not an historian; he is a fiction writer. Not only that, he is a court-affirmed perjurer, anti-Semite, and racist.
***** CONDIT: More Zionist rigged court decisions, -- you seem to be very impressed with those. I assure you any informed person is not so impressed, especially those of us who have been through them on other fronts. Mr. David Irving, the "non-historian" was once the top paid author of books dealing with history in England, and still cannot keep his books in print in relation to the demand for them. Deborah Lipstadt (Irving's opponent in the trial over the slander/libel issue in England a few years ago) had her last dreadfully dreary book pulped --- meaning a lot of them destroyed after they didn't sell. In other words, in Ph.D. language, there wasn't enough caffeine on the planet to keep people awake for that one! *****
***** CONDIT: Anti-Semite? Do
you think you can get away with that one before a live audience and the
worldwide audience of the internet? -- We'll see. *****
MATHIS: Finally, with regard to Germar Rudolf (and again, I am in disagreement with his jailing), he is not in jail merely for conducting a (highly flawed) scientific study.
***** CONDIT: Think about that sentence you just wrote, Mr. Ph.D. ******
MATHIS: He is in jail for publishing the report.
***** CONDIT: Well, now that's different. If he actually PUBLISHED something the
Zionists didn't like, then more people will maybe see why he is in jail for six
years at least -- even if they disagree with his jailing, as you do. *****
MATHIS: (And, like Zundel, he'd still be in the
U.S.
if he hadn't flouted U.S. immigration law.)
***** CONDIT: Another blatant falsehood. Germar Rudolph was also arrested for missing a hearing he wasn't notified about. And, glad you brought that up. Since when are people who must leave the USA due to green card violations (even if true) -- immediately handed over to a foreign government? Do we have an extradition treaty with Germany to turn people over to them who say things and publish things that Abe Foxman of the ADL and Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute don't like? I don't think so. This was one group of Zionist Jew criminals (in D.C) working with another group of their agents or toadies in Germany to flout the spirit and letter of U.S. law. Let's do discuss this before the live audience at our upcoming debate. At least I will. *****
***** CONDIT: Incidentally, for readers who don't know who Germar Rudolph is. He is a former scientist at the Max Planck institute. He did an experiment confirming Fred Leuchter's experiment that there was no Zykon B gas residue in the walls of the buildings they are showing at Auschwitz as gas chambers. It is not a flawed experiment. It is perfectly sound, and Rudolph has written extensively on it at his website, still going thankfully, at www.vho.org -- in case anyone wants to check it out. *****
MATHIS: Again, I don't agree
with this, but you simply are not getting your facts straight, and the people of
your constituency deserve to know this.
****** CONDIT: Oh, they deserve to know alright about my facts. And they will ALL be able to get "real informed" when our debate goes up on the internet. Incidentally, a copy of the videotape will be provided to my faction and your faction, so that addendums can be added on by each side on their own respective websites, using themselves or anyone else who might serve as expert on this or that point. Each side can videotape during the debate, but if anything happens to interrupt the filming, I stop until the videotaping resumes. Also, if you storm off the stage in a huff, then I get to stay and finish my presentation and take questions from the audience for the balance of the time. I, my Ph.D. correspondent, will stay on stage for the entire debate. And since you started out this pompous letter of yours by calling Eric Hufschmid a coward, it will be most unseemly to bow out of this debate you have suggested. *****
MATHIS: By the way, did you
know that when David Irving unsuccessfully sued historian Deborah Lipstadt for
libel in 2000, he was going to enter an expert report from Rudolf and withdrew
it instead?
***** CONDIT: Irving made several moves that were not approved by Rudolph and other informed experts in this field such as Dr. Robert Faurisson of France. Many people hold back things in a court trial due to what they perceive as the temperament of the judge, or other factors, as you surely know. *****
MATHIS: What does that say for
Rudolf's alleged expertise?
***** CONDIT: Nothing, one way or the other. Irving relied on Rudolph heavily during the trial for research and help on an almost daily basis via the internet. What does that say about Rudolph's expertise? Actually, the only thing we need to know about the expertise of David Irving, Germar Rudolph, or Ernst Zundel -- is that their arguments and writings were so effective, so resoundingly unanswerable, that the Zionist moral monsters have had to put them in jail to try stop them, and to try and intimidate others from speaking out in public along the same (irrefutable) lines. That is all we really need to know about the expertise, competence, and accuracy -- to say nothing of the historical significance -- of these three men. *****
***** CONDIT: And let's stop
and ponder for a moment that the Zionist persecutors own very close to all the
major radio and TV stations, and big daily newspapers, in the USA, Britain, and
probably most of Europe. While Zundel, Irving, and Rudolph were just fighting
with pen, paper, speeches, and, these last ten years, over the internet. *****
***** CONDIT: Incidentally,
occupied Germany (60 years after WW II, with no peace treaty yet???) would not
have these Communist/Zionist laws against speech and publishing -- if it weren't
enforced on them by the Zionist Jews who have been using the US government as a
mask, mostly unbeknownst to the people of the USA. We'll see how the live
audience -- and the internet audience -- feels about THAT. *****
MATHIS: I invite you to respond
to me on these issues and debate me directly on the issue of the Auschwitz gas
chambers.
***** CONDIT: I have responded
to you, and I will debate you, under the conditions outlined. You are not going
to get away with trying to limit the context of this debate. The context is the
20th century. The specific focus is the proposition that there were homicidal
gas chambers at Auschwitz and elsewhere, which were used by the Nazis to kill millions of Jewish
people. Since both sides can put an unlimited amount of addendums onto the
debate on the two respective websites (at least I'm going to put up a website
devoted to this debate), then there is no danger of anything remaining uncovered
- because the debate can go on for weeks, months, or years after the actual
event, with new material being added all the time. I'm interested in having a
debate that will get at the truth of recent past history and of our current
situation. *****
****** CONDIT: The rules again
are: 15 minutes for you, 15 minutes for me for the first hour (who goes first
decided by a public coin toss at the start of the event). A five minute
summation from each of us -- and then 50 minutes of questions from the audience
-- with each of us being limited to a two minute answer to each question. This
will give time for a number of questions, and since material can be added on the
internet sites later, then the two minute answers are not obstructive of the
truth, while providing a reasonable time constraint so that many audience
members can ask a question. Oh, yes, LIVE QUESTIONS ONLY FROM THE AUDIENCE,
we're not going to have one of those "liberal" censors collecting 3 x 5 cards
and then picking the questions HE thinks the audience and the debaters should
hear. The venue must be a college or other auditorium conducive to holding an
audience of a few hundred people for such a debate. As regards audience, I would
suggest students make up the bulk of the audience, with first come first served
after the students are let in. *****
***** CONDIT: Now, don't
chicken out, Mr. Ph.D. This exchange will be passed around on the internet
tomorrow to tens of thousands of people, I assure you. I will not be sending a
copy to the totally irrelevant and shameful Cincinnati Enquirer (I'll leave that
to you), because more people will read it on the internet in the next few days
than would read it in the Cincinnati Enquirer -- even if Mr. Bronson & company
put it on the first page, "above the fold", as they say. *****
***** Jim Condit Jr. *****
Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D.
CC: Editor, Cincinnati Enquirer
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